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	<title>Comments on: Empty McMansion #4</title>
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	<description>Tracking the Arcadia and San Gabriel Valley Housing Market</description>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/03/03/empty-mcmansion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since it&#039;s only the rebuilding cost, it would not incur the soft cost as that developers will have to include as part of their development cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since it&#8217;s only the rebuilding cost, it would not incur the soft cost as that developers will have to include as part of their development cost.</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/03/03/empty-mcmansion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem $150psf is the average cost to build a home in the area. We are talking standard basic materials, no high-end flooring, hollow doors, no/basic appliances, ect. In many in-fill areas of LA and OC, $130-150psf will definitely get you a livable home.

Now throw in fancy landscaping, a pool, upgraded finishings and we&#039;re reaching into the $200psf range.

In contrast, it would cost a production home builder anywhere from $65-90psf to build the same home (in the LA/OC area). 

Since construction has slowed down significantly after the housing/credit bust, I have seen costs drop down to $55psf in the outlying areas (Antelope &amp; San Fernando Valleys). Needless to say, subcontractors are hurting from lack of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem $150psf is the average cost to build a home in the area. We are talking standard basic materials, no high-end flooring, hollow doors, no/basic appliances, ect. In many in-fill areas of LA and OC, $130-150psf will definitely get you a livable home.</p>
<p>Now throw in fancy landscaping, a pool, upgraded finishings and we&#8217;re reaching into the $200psf range.</p>
<p>In contrast, it would cost a production home builder anywhere from $65-90psf to build the same home (in the LA/OC area). </p>
<p>Since construction has slowed down significantly after the housing/credit bust, I have seen costs drop down to $55psf in the outlying areas (Antelope &#038; San Fernando Valleys). Needless to say, subcontractors are hurting from lack of work.</p>
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		<title>By: AKR</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/03/03/empty-mcmansion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>AKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ic. I am just suprised to see the number being to high.  Do you know why the insurance company uses only about $150 per sf when they calcuate the rebuilding cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ic. I am just suprised to see the number being to high.  Do you know why the insurance company uses only about $150 per sf when they calcuate the rebuilding cost?</p>
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		<title>By: SavedbyGrace</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/03/03/empty-mcmansion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>SavedbyGrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My search on Google gives me an estimated construction cost of $125-$150/sqft in desirable California cities. Costs are highly dependent on location and places like the IE and Lancaster/Palmdale will have much lower construction costs. There are a multitude of factors that can affect the $/sqft number. In construction there are soft and hard costs.

Soft costs are non-building expenses such as permits, architectural fees, origination points, transfer taxes, title insurance, appraisal fee, overhead, hazard/cost of construction insurance etc. These can be significant and raise the $/sqft by as much as $35-$50/sqft. 

Hard costs are the physical items such as land value, site prep/grading, labor, materials, cost overruns etc. From the look of it, this property can qualify as a custom home with its marble floors, landscaping and high end appliances/fixtures. The costs associated with this can further add to the building costs. 

$225 may be on the high side, but it&#039;s not that far off. Since he frequently works with local builders, TheArcadian is better fit to answer your question. Thanks for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My search on Google gives me an estimated construction cost of $125-$150/sqft in desirable California cities. Costs are highly dependent on location and places like the IE and Lancaster/Palmdale will have much lower construction costs. There are a multitude of factors that can affect the $/sqft number. In construction there are soft and hard costs.</p>
<p>Soft costs are non-building expenses such as permits, architectural fees, origination points, transfer taxes, title insurance, appraisal fee, overhead, hazard/cost of construction insurance etc. These can be significant and raise the $/sqft by as much as $35-$50/sqft. </p>
<p>Hard costs are the physical items such as land value, site prep/grading, labor, materials, cost overruns etc. From the look of it, this property can qualify as a custom home with its marble floors, landscaping and high end appliances/fixtures. The costs associated with this can further add to the building costs. </p>
<p>$225 may be on the high side, but it&#8217;s not that far off. Since he frequently works with local builders, TheArcadian is better fit to answer your question. Thanks for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/03/03/empty-mcmansion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Custom home construction could easily run up to and over $200 psf (hard+soft costs). You are right that a custom home can be built for cheaper but the &quot;custom finishes&quot; that the seller chooses during construction can easily add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in the end.

We are assuming a decked-out McMansion with quality material to go along with their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/02/21/torrey-pines-the-mcmansion-of-mcmansions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert Tong&lt;/a&gt; floor plan. Since this house was being built right as the bubble popped, sub-contracting costs most likely haven&#039;t decreased yet.

But yes, a new home can be built for cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Custom home construction could easily run up to and over $200 psf (hard+soft costs). You are right that a custom home can be built for cheaper but the &#8220;custom finishes&#8221; that the seller chooses during construction can easily add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in the end.</p>
<p>We are assuming a decked-out McMansion with quality material to go along with their <a href="http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/02/21/torrey-pines-the-mcmansion-of-mcmansions/" rel="nofollow">Robert Tong</a> floor plan. Since this house was being built right as the bubble popped, sub-contracting costs most likely haven&#8217;t decreased yet.</p>
<p>But yes, a new home can be built for cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: AKR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the construction costs so high?  225 per sq!  That&#039;s even more than a contractor would charge to a private owner who would like to have a full custom home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the construction costs so high?  225 per sq!  That&#8217;s even more than a contractor would charge to a private owner who would like to have a full custom home.</p>
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