A PUD I’d rather rent.

333 Eldorado St. #A
Arcadia, CA 91006

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Asking Price $859,000 ::: Sq-ft 2,578
Purchased Price $357,000 ::: Lot Size Attached Condo
Purchased Date 5/17/1999 ::: Beds 3
Days on Redfin 2 ::: Baths 2.75
$/Sq-ft $333 ::: Year Built 1998
20% Downpayment $171,800 ::: Area East Arcadia
Income Required $214,750 ::: Type PUD/Townhome
Est. Payment* $4,343/month ::: MLS# 22110608

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

This property is part of a cluster of 5 attached and detached PUDs. When we first saw its photo and location, our first thought was ‘hey, theses types of homes were selling around $300k during the late 90s’. Sure enough, this property was first purchased in 1999 for $357,000. Applying the standard appreciation table, we get the following of what this home should be worth:

3% – $465,804 ($180 per sf)
4% – $508,122 ($197 per sf)
5% – $553,824 ($214 per sf)

Now before you argue that anything under $300 per sf is unrealistic, consider that a $88,178 price reduction will bring this property down to $299 per sf; just a mere 10.2% drop in value. In a market where the median sales price is expected to drop at least another 10% in the next year, I don’t think anyone will even consider this property for $859,000. Personally, I think that is a conservative number and 20% over the next 12 months seems more realistic. Don’t forget, this is a national housing crisis and as long as the bad news keeps circulating through the media, potential buyers will choose to stay on the sidelines.

If you look at the listing, this 5-unit cluster comes packaged with a $200 homeowner’s association fee; bringing your total monthly payment to $4,543. As one reader pointed out yesterday, why would someone lock themselves into this financial commitment when they can rent an equivalent property just 2 blocks away for $2,950?

Return on Investment

The seller purchased the property for $357,000 and hopes to make a $522,000 profit after living in it for 9 years. That averages out to a 15% annual appreciation rate over that time period. As is the nature of a bubble (i.e. stocks or real estate), most of that appreciation actually occurred during the last 3 years.

Fortunately for this seller, they bought at a good time and despite where prices are going, they should survive the housing crisis fairly well. I say should because we know way too many people who used their home’s equity as an ATM and have racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt against the property. Let’s hope this seller isn’t one of them!

290% Return in 4 months

443 Las Tunas Dr.
Arcadia, CA 91007

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Asking Price $775,000 ::: Sq-ft 1,020
Purchased Price $600,000 ::: Lot Size 0.26 acres
Purchased Date 1/4/2008 ::: Beds 2
Days on Redfin 23 ::: Baths 1
$/Sq-ft $760 ::: Year Built 1941
20% Downpayment $155,000 ::: Area Las Tunas / Baldwin
Income Required $193,750 ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $3,918/month ::: MLS# W08062891

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

I actually referred to this property in a weekend post earlier in the month. Looking at the numbers again, I think the listing deserves its own WTF you-gotta-be-kidding-me post.

Location
I drive by this property every other day. It’s located just East of Baldwin Ave. where, although traffic isn’t heavy, cars constantly blow by it at above-average speeds. Right down the street is the Big Lots and H.K. Cafe shopping plazas. I wouldn’t say it was a bad location, but it’s not anything stellar either.

Property
For $775,000 you’re getting a 1,020sf 67 year-old home. At $760 per square foot, there is no question that this listing is way overpriced. As an extra bonus, this property comes packaged with the “EXTRA AMENITIES OF WORKSHOP, GREENHOUSE AND ENCLOSED PATIO.” Personally, I don’t have a green thumb so I don’t quite understand the benefits of a greenhouse. But hey, there are probably folks out there who would really appreciate one.

Purchase & Financing

This property was purchased in January of 2008 for $600,000. No, that date wasn’t a typo. After holding onto it for just under 4 months, the owner has now put it back on the market for $175,000 over his/her purchase price. There was a 10% downpayment that was most likely required by the lender. I’m certain the buyer would have gone 105% financing if they were allowed to but someone forgot to inform this flipper that we’re now in a housing and credit crisis.

Not only is the $775,000 asking price ridiculous, I am amazed at what kind of profit this flipper is trying to make.

Downpayment – $60,000
Loan amount – $540,000
Asking Price -> $775,000 – $60,000 – $540,00 = $175,000

I deal with extremely risky real estate investments and a projected 30-40% return is already very tempting to my investors. Based on this flipper’s $60k investment, he/she hopes to make a 290% return in just 4 months!

Hopeful Romantics

That’s who the average sellers are…hopeful romantics. If this were 2005, I can imagine the logic of buy, wait and resell for profit, but I find it difficult to comprehend that silly people were still doing that last year. The numbers are out for the month of April and DataQuick reported that Arcadia zipcode 91007 SFR sales price change dropped 25% from April of 2007.

Today’s featured properties are all in the 91007 zipcode, purchased in 2007 and listed for resale in 2008. Did their asking prices reflect the data? Let’s take a look.

A) 10421 E. Live Oak Ave.
Purchase Date 08/09/2007
Purchase Price $610,000
Listing Date 05/17/2008
Current Asking Price $729,000
Price Change +19.5%

B) 1107 W. Duarte Rd. #B
Purchase Date 11/28/2007
Purchase Price $442,000
Listing Date 05/09/2008
Current Asking Price $559,000
Price Change +26.5%

C) 2105 S. Baldwin Ave.
Purchase Date 06/18/2007
Purchase Price $550,000
Listing Date 05/21/2008
Current Asking Price $573,888
Price Change +4.3%

D) 2029 S. Baldwin Ave.
Purchase Date 05/04/2007
Purchase Price $650,000
Listing Date 05/19/2008
Current Asking Price $718,000
Price Change +10.5%

Are these folks hopeful romantics or what? Instead of following the trend of the market and actually pricing it for sale, they’re still trying to make a profit despite buying in 2007. If these properties were to sell at the 25% discount like the rest of the 91007 properties in April, they would go for A) $457,500 B) $331,500 C) $412,500 D) $487,500 instead of the above listing asking prices.

When will we see these prices on reflected in the market? Soon. Actually the 25% decrease in price from April 07 vs 08 is REAL. It’s not a prediction or a guess; it’s the actual sales prices of homes sold. It’s important to look at data from homes sold and not homes listed on the market. After all, we have seen countless homedebtors romanticizing about selling for a profit – even in this desperate market.

What Can You Buy With $759,000?

Day in and day out we profile properties in Arcadia and constantly remind ourselves how much money people would spend for good schools, good location and a generally a safe and welcoming neighborhood. Sometimes we forget that there are cities surrounding Arcadia that may offer more, or even less, home for the same price. I can see how empty nesters may not require the best school districts or young professionals choosing to pass on the maintenance that comes large lots.

Let’s pick a random value, say $759,000, and see what you can buy in Arcadia, Sierra Madre and Temple City.

#1 Arcadia – 3bed/3bath attached townhouse 2,340 sqft. Built in 2005.
209 S. Third Ave. #A

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While this property lacks in lot size, it is made up by offering more living area square footage and a new construction.

#2 Sierra Madre – 3bed/2bath SFR 1,567 sqft. Built in 1967.
290 W. Laurel Ave.

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To the North of Arcadia is Sierra Madre. For $744,900 you get a 40 year old home that’s greatly in need of remodeling. But it’s generally in livable condition and you’re just a few minutes drive from the Santa Anita Mall.

#3 Temple City – 4bed/3bath SFR 2,447 sqft. Built in 1924.
6019 Agnes Ave.

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To the South is the small town of Temple City. TC has its fair share of new McMansions sitting next to traditional homes. For $759,000 you can buy an 84 year old property that’s been very well maintained and tastefully upgraded.

Comp Killers

416 S. Old Ranch Rd.

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Asking Price $750,000 ::: Sq-ft 1,438
Purchased Price ? ::: Lot Size 9,000 sf
Purchased Date ? ::: Beds 3
Days on Redfin 2 ::: Baths 2
$/Sq-ft $522 ::: Year Built 1941
20% Downpayment $150,000 ::: Area Peacock Village
Income Required $187,500 ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $3,792/month ::: MLS# A08073132

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

This is located in the desirable Santa Anita Village neighboorhood. Living Room features fireplace and crown moldings, dining area, central air/heat, 2 car detached garage with many possibilites.

Yesterday I wrote about comp killers dragging the entire neighborhood down with it and today we have a prime good example of that. At first glance, this property isn’t anything special. It’s old, dated and could use a serious home makeover so surely you’d agree that it’s not worth the asking price of $750k. That being said, at 1438 sq-ft it’s a comfortable 3 bed, 2 bath in a desirable neighborhood so is it priced correctly?

Let’s take a look at the neighborhood comps.

Candidate #1 - 812 Victoria Dr.
$748,000 3bed/1bath 1,256 sqft on 7,675 sqft lot $596/sqft
This house is just around the corner and is asking for $2,000 less, but you lose 200 sqft of living space and 1,325 sqft of lot. On top of that, it only has 1 bathroom — a big no no in today’s market.

Candidate #2716 Joaquin Rd.
$758,000 2bed/1.75bath 1,550 sqft on 9,000 sqft lot $489/sqft
This house is a few steps away and asking for $8,000 more in exchange for 112 more sqft of living space, the same sized lot and a (probably dated) bathtub. Personally, I wouldn’t pay $8k more for112 sqft. It was last sold in 2000 for just $343k.

Candidate #3 - 707 Joaquin Rd.
$829,900 2bed/1.75bath 1,513 sqft on 8,625 sqft lot $549/sqft
This distressed seller is so confused he/she increased the asking price from $699k (April 2008) to $829,900 (May 2008). For $79,900 more than today’s featured property, you get 75 sqft more living space, a smaller yard and lots of fruit trees. The notice of default must have knocked the sense out of them because this property sold for just $365k in 2001.

Candidate #4860 Coronado Dr.
$868,000 3bed/1bath 1,974 sqft on what appears to be roughly the same size lot $440/sqft
This for-sale-by-owner property wants $118,000 more for 536 more sqft of living space. That’s $220/sqft for something that’s old, not new construction. Crikeys – you also lose a bathroom.

Sold 1 month ago on April 16, 2008 – 839 Palo Alto Dr.
$750,000 2bed/2bath 1,645 sqft on a similar sized lot with a pool
This property sold last month for the same $750,000 the sellers are asking for today. That’s probably how they came up with the asking price. You get 200 more sqft, but lose the extra bedroom so it’s about equivalent.

Based on the above information, it appears that 416 S. Old Ranch Road will depress the asking prices of all four neighboring candidates in the lower east Peacock area. When you’re the lone ranger for sale, it may be possible to deceive a potential buyer into thinking your property is worth the asking price. When you have another comparable sale within a mile from your property going for less, then you have a serious problem.

In addition, the recent sale on Palo Alto Dr. places today’s property at a reasonable price. Of course, that doesn’t mean it won’t depress further in the coming months. If the comparables sold in the early 2000s for around $350k, at 3%, 4% and 5% annual appreciation, it would be worth $443k, $479k and $517k, respectively.

Blast to the past

3137 Center St.
Arcadia, CA 91006

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Asking Price $459,900 ::: Sq-ft 1,987
Purchased Price $900,000 ::: Lot Size 10,202sf
Purchased Date 10/23/2006 ::: Beds 4
Days on Redfin 10 ::: Baths 2
$/Sq-ft $231 ::: Year Built 1947
20% Downpayment $91,800 ::: Area Bordering El Monte
Income Required $114,750 ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $2,320/month ::: MLS# A08068868

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%
This is an REO currently listing for 50% off its 2006 asking price! From the only photo they uploaded, the property has been neglected for some time as you can see from the overgrown grass. It’s not in the greatest part of town, but it’s still Arcadia and I couldn’t pass up sharing a 50% off listing. Pretty soon we’ll be seeing large discounts even in the better neighborhoods.

The property is another example of how stupidity and greed is a lethal combination. This house was purchased in 2006 with 100% financing and now the bank is left holding the bag. There was a $750,000 first and a $150,000 second mortgage on this distressed property. The banks paid $900k for something that, in my opinion, is worth less than the current asking price of $459,900. Think about that for a moment. The second loan suffers a total loss of $150k and the primary mortgage holder could lose $317,694 after 6% commission. The grand total depreciation of this property is $467,694 — if they get their current asking price.

Who are the losers here? The homedebtors who were actually flippers that came into the market at the wrong time? The banks who got greedy and lent out more money than was reasonable? They’re both losers, but the ones that have to live with it and breathe it day in & day out are the neighbors. Sure the property was never worth that much to begin with, but nothing screams neighborhood comp killer like a property at half off the previous transaction just 19 months ago.

Neglected homes not only bring down the neighborhood comp prices, but also its hopes and emotions for any summer rebound of the market. Banks don’t have emotions. They have numbers, record books, shareholders and investors. This REO will make it tough for any other comparable properties in the area to sell for much more than $230/sqft.

Inventory & Market Report – 5/17/08

Zip Codes: 91006, 91007market_icon.jpg

Current Market Listings as of May 17th, 2008*
Properties for Sale: 220 (+2)
Median Listing Price: $768,880 (-0.80%)

Weekly Foreclosure Update*
Properties in Foreclosure: 23 (+2)
Properties in Pre-Foreclosure: 65 (+4)
*+/- is compared to previous week’s data.

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Although AHB has been running for less than 4 full months, we have been contacted by several media outlets (large and small) inquiring about why we started this blog. The answer is simple:

We are local renters who have work and saved hard in order to purchase a home in Arcadia one day. Despite the buying frenzy between 2003 and 2006, we saw how far off home prices were compared to both historical and fundamental values. As this was the situation, SavedbyGrace and I created this simple website, Arcadia Housing Blog, to track real estate trends in the city of Arcadia and its adjoining neighbors.

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Property and foreclosure numbers obtained from U.S. Census, ZipRealty, Trulia, Yahoo Real Estate and Foreclosure.com. Market listings and price data obtained from DataQuick News.