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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/06/02/update-on-sale-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frank,

This reminds me of an associate who&#039;s property in Arcadia went into foreclosure earlier this year. According to him, it got bought up really quick; therefore, the market must still be really strong. 

He failed to mention the 10% price reduction that will drag down all the other properties on his street. 10% here, 10% there, and eventually homes will be down 25-35% from its peak value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frank,</p>
<p>This reminds me of an associate who&#8217;s property in Arcadia went into foreclosure earlier this year. According to him, it got bought up really quick; therefore, the market must still be really strong. </p>
<p>He failed to mention the 10% price reduction that will drag down all the other properties on his street. 10% here, 10% there, and eventually homes will be down 25-35% from its peak value.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Jewett</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/06/02/update-on-sale-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like quoting MLS numbers to prove the market is improving when they aren&#039;t a true reflection of the number of properties for sale because they don&#039;t include unlisted REOs?

&quot;Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you&#039;d been messin&#039; around.&quot; - REO Speedwagon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like quoting MLS numbers to prove the market is improving when they aren&#8217;t a true reflection of the number of properties for sale because they don&#8217;t include unlisted REOs?</p>
<p>&#8220;Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you&#8217;d been messin&#8217; around.&#8221; &#8211; REO Speedwagon</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/06/02/update-on-sale-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfalfa,

Thanks for being a reader!

In this era of savvy online shoppers and endless web resources (e.g. redfin), these kind of tactics will backfire on agents and brokers. Perhaps I should write a post on all the shady tricks Realtors will do to skew the data and facts when selling a home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfalfa,</p>
<p>Thanks for being a reader!</p>
<p>In this era of savvy online shoppers and endless web resources (e.g. redfin), these kind of tactics will backfire on agents and brokers. Perhaps I should write a post on all the shady tricks Realtors will do to skew the data and facts when selling a home?</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/06/02/update-on-sale-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2664</link>
		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite bizarre, don&#039;t you think? I&#039;d be very interested in the history behind the previous purchase and current listing price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite bizarre, don&#8217;t you think? I&#8217;d be very interested in the history behind the previous purchase and current listing price.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfalfa</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/06/02/update-on-sale-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2663</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfalfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lover your site!

&quot;Many of the listings have been “refreshed” by the listing agent so the “days on market” figure is actually lower than it is.&quot;

This is perhaps one of the most eggregious tactics used by brokers, and their trade association just looks the other way. Then they wonder why the public rates them down there with used car salesmen when it come to honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lover your site!</p>
<p>&#8220;Many of the listings have been “refreshed” by the listing agent so the “days on market” figure is actually lower than it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is perhaps one of the most eggregious tactics used by brokers, and their trade association just looks the other way. Then they wonder why the public rates them down there with used car salesmen when it come to honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Arcadia Lost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcadia Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the property at 1642 N. Santa Anita:  Misprint, scam, or an incredibly misinformed buyer in 1991?  A sales price of $1.14M in 1991.  Now, after remodeling, asking is &lt;$900k. Hadn&#039;t the mini-bubble of the late 80&#039;s already popped by 1991?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the property at 1642 N. Santa Anita:  Misprint, scam, or an incredibly misinformed buyer in 1991?  A sales price of $1.14M in 1991.  Now, after remodeling, asking is &lt;$900k. Hadn&#8217;t the mini-bubble of the late 80&#8242;s already popped by 1991?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Jewett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Jewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome!  

The losses?  The increases?  Nope.

It&#039;s awesome that you took the time to go back and follow up on your earlier posts.  Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  </p>
<p>The losses?  The increases?  Nope.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome that you took the time to go back and follow up on your earlier posts.  Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: IdiotBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>IdiotBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on 1031 W. Foothill Blvd--  I talked to the broker on Friday to understand the seller&#039;s price expectations.  I bascially said that if seller would come down to $1.6M, I would be interested.  Broker claimed that there was somebody who was putting together an offer at &quot;close&quot; to the $2.0M asking price, and that the seller wasn&#039;t interested in selling at a price lower than what they owed on their loan.  (Remember-- they bought in July 2005 for $1.7M, and have since put some additional money into the house.)

Translation: Anything less than $1.7M and the seller isn&#039;t a seller.  That, of course, assumes that the seller can actually afford the carrying costs after the inevitable reset (potentially as soon as this July, though they might have gotten a 5-year fixed period, which means they could ride it out for another couple years).

I&#039;ll be very interested to see whether this moves at that price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on 1031 W. Foothill Blvd&#8211;  I talked to the broker on Friday to understand the seller&#8217;s price expectations.  I bascially said that if seller would come down to $1.6M, I would be interested.  Broker claimed that there was somebody who was putting together an offer at &#8220;close&#8221; to the $2.0M asking price, and that the seller wasn&#8217;t interested in selling at a price lower than what they owed on their loan.  (Remember&#8211; they bought in July 2005 for $1.7M, and have since put some additional money into the house.)</p>
<p>Translation: Anything less than $1.7M and the seller isn&#8217;t a seller.  That, of course, assumes that the seller can actually afford the carrying costs after the inevitable reset (potentially as soon as this July, though they might have gotten a 5-year fixed period, which means they could ride it out for another couple years).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be very interested to see whether this moves at that price.</p>
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