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	<title>Comments on: Arcadia vs Monrovia &#8211; $1MM</title>
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	<description>Tracking the Arcadia and San Gabriel Valley Housing Market</description>
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		<title>By: the problemwithcaring</title>
		<link>http://www.arcadiahousingblog.com/2008/07/02/arcadia-vs-monrovia-1mm/comment-page-1/#comment-223738</link>
		<dc:creator>the problemwithcaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost a year later and still for sale, now at $850K. 

Talk about chasing the damn market down. Seller - Get thee to Jesus. Now!

Also, I guess a few more gang killing inside the hallowed &quot;incorporated&quot; city limits, this time, can&#039;t exactly help prices, huh? http://www.redfin.com/CA/Monrovia/779-Norumbega-Dr-91016/home/7973581</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost a year later and still for sale, now at $850K. </p>
<p>Talk about chasing the damn market down. Seller &#8211; Get thee to Jesus. Now!</p>
<p>Also, I guess a few more gang killing inside the hallowed &#8220;incorporated&#8221; city limits, this time, can&#8217;t exactly help prices, huh? <a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Monrovia/779-Norumbega-Dr-91016/home/7973581" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/CA/Monrovia/779-Norumbega-Dr-91016/home/7973581</a></p>
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		<title>By: APACHERAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>APACHERAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent crime problems in Monrovia are in the southeast corner of the city. Two of the gang homicides actually were committed in the extreme south end of the unincorporated area of Monrovia that is also adjacent to Arcadia city limits. The area just happens to have a Monrovia post office address. 

   If your north of Huntington Dr. in Monrovia, there&#039;s less crime than there is in Arcadia. Arcadia has more than ten times more purse snatching, armed robberies, assaults, auto burglaries, home burglaries, car jacking, rapes, drug crimes etc. than Monrovia. How often do you hear of a purse snatching or a strong arm robbery taking place in Monrovia ? Not often where as it happens every day with in Arcadia.  

   Any home north of Foothill in Monrovia is safer than any other city in the SGV. The neighborhoods north of Foothill Blvd. in Monrovia are one of the few neighborhoods in California where a good looking young woman could walk down the street at 3:00 a.m. and just not feel safe but is safe except the possibility of being attacked by a mountain lion.  

   Monrovia has many Victorian and craftsman homes and Arcadia doesn&#039;t. Rule of thumb, the newer a home is, the less quality in workmanship and materials will be found compared to older homes. 

   Most homes built in the past thirty years are poorly constructed. Most were built by unskilled tradesmen. What counts is what is hidden behind the walls. Are the water lines all copper ? Are the electrical circuit runs Romex or are all the conductors run through metal conduit (EMT, rigid pipe, flex) ? Are all of the basic circuits for lighting and receptacles on a 20 amp circuit using # 12 ga. THHN wiring or did the contractor cut corners and used # 14 ga. wiring on a 15 amp circuit ? Remember the building codes are just the minimum. A contractor who takes pride in his work will go beyond what the code calls for as a minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent crime problems in Monrovia are in the southeast corner of the city. Two of the gang homicides actually were committed in the extreme south end of the unincorporated area of Monrovia that is also adjacent to Arcadia city limits. The area just happens to have a Monrovia post office address. </p>
<p>   If your north of Huntington Dr. in Monrovia, there&#8217;s less crime than there is in Arcadia. Arcadia has more than ten times more purse snatching, armed robberies, assaults, auto burglaries, home burglaries, car jacking, rapes, drug crimes etc. than Monrovia. How often do you hear of a purse snatching or a strong arm robbery taking place in Monrovia ? Not often where as it happens every day with in Arcadia.  </p>
<p>   Any home north of Foothill in Monrovia is safer than any other city in the SGV. The neighborhoods north of Foothill Blvd. in Monrovia are one of the few neighborhoods in California where a good looking young woman could walk down the street at 3:00 a.m. and just not feel safe but is safe except the possibility of being attacked by a mountain lion.  </p>
<p>   Monrovia has many Victorian and craftsman homes and Arcadia doesn&#8217;t. Rule of thumb, the newer a home is, the less quality in workmanship and materials will be found compared to older homes. </p>
<p>   Most homes built in the past thirty years are poorly constructed. Most were built by unskilled tradesmen. What counts is what is hidden behind the walls. Are the water lines all copper ? Are the electrical circuit runs Romex or are all the conductors run through metal conduit (EMT, rigid pipe, flex) ? Are all of the basic circuits for lighting and receptacles on a 20 amp circuit using # 12 ga. THHN wiring or did the contractor cut corners and used # 14 ga. wiring on a 15 amp circuit ? Remember the building codes are just the minimum. A contractor who takes pride in his work will go beyond what the code calls for as a minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Diddi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diddi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny reading comments on this blog. People have to remember, as if they need a reminder, that homes prices can not rise indefinitely. There comes a point of low to no affordability.

While Arcadia is desirable for it&#039;s schools at what point does it make more sense to buy 2x the property for the same money and send junior to private school?

Right now, Monrovia has much more upside for the next boom. Gangs or no gangs, demand for nice homes close to LA and SGV attractions will win out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny reading comments on this blog. People have to remember, as if they need a reminder, that homes prices can not rise indefinitely. There comes a point of low to no affordability.</p>
<p>While Arcadia is desirable for it&#8217;s schools at what point does it make more sense to buy 2x the property for the same money and send junior to private school?</p>
<p>Right now, Monrovia has much more upside for the next boom. Gangs or no gangs, demand for nice homes close to LA and SGV attractions will win out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerin Cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerin Cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Price aside, the home at 140 E. Hillcrest looks plain ugly to me.
The link to find API scores for all California public schools is http://data1.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/

You look by district and by individual school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Price aside, the home at 140 E. Hillcrest looks plain ugly to me.<br />
The link to find API scores for all California public schools is <a href="http://data1.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/" rel="nofollow">http://data1.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/</a></p>
<p>You look by district and by individual school.</p>
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		<title>By: missedthebubble</title>
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		<dc:creator>missedthebubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

So the credit bubble is causing issues in the banking industry.

I hear about Wamu, Wachoiva, Countrywide, etc.... I almost never hear about Wells Fargo... 

Does anyone else hear anything about Wells Fargo...

The comparisons, really show the effects of the credit bubble and the RE mania... Arcadia prices almost look sane compared to the Monrovia ones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>So the credit bubble is causing issues in the banking industry.</p>
<p>I hear about Wamu, Wachoiva, Countrywide, etc&#8230;. I almost never hear about Wells Fargo&#8230; </p>
<p>Does anyone else hear anything about Wells Fargo&#8230;</p>
<p>The comparisons, really show the effects of the credit bubble and the RE mania&#8230; Arcadia prices almost look sane compared to the Monrovia ones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTB,

Thanks! I&#039;m glad you find the post helpful. This is also a learning experience for me since Monrovia has never been on my radar until we started doing research on Arcadia and its surrounding neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTB,</p>
<p>Thanks! I&#8217;m glad you find the post helpful. This is also a learning experience for me since Monrovia has never been on my radar until we started doing research on Arcadia and its surrounding neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can see, this neighborhood isn&#039;t your typical ghetto area. Is it old? Yes. But if this home comes down anywhere close to its 2002 sales price of $610,000, or even ~$750-800k, then I can see many people lining up to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can see, this neighborhood isn&#8217;t your typical ghetto area. Is it old? Yes. But if this home comes down anywhere close to its 2002 sales price of $610,000, or even ~$750-800k, then I can see many people lining up to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: TheArcadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheArcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea, I definitely love the small town feel (in some neighborhoods) and old town area. A lot of new construction have went on the past couple years and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see people slowly moving in and bringing some positive influence into the city. 

If you&#039;re really looking for home vs price value, then Monrovia should be on your radar. They were just as affected by this housing bubble and I expect price declines to hit harder than Arcadia&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea, I definitely love the small town feel (in some neighborhoods) and old town area. A lot of new construction have went on the past couple years and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see people slowly moving in and bringing some positive influence into the city. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re really looking for home vs price value, then Monrovia should be on your radar. They were just as affected by this housing bubble and I expect price declines to hit harder than Arcadia&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: missedthebubble</title>
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		<dc:creator>missedthebubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome job, and these comparisons of yours helped me greatly.

Monrovia has always been, buy more home, send to private school area.

So if we have referenced Arcadia at $200 to $300 p/sqft, then I figure Monrovia will bottom out at $175 to $200 p/sqft.

and can someone post the url for comparing high schools again...

Thanks,

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome job, and these comparisons of yours helped me greatly.</p>
<p>Monrovia has always been, buy more home, send to private school area.</p>
<p>So if we have referenced Arcadia at $200 to $300 p/sqft, then I figure Monrovia will bottom out at $175 to $200 p/sqft.</p>
<p>and can someone post the url for comparing high schools again&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Tim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the previous threads, I&#039;m presuming there are at least two factors that contribute to Monrovia&#039;s being considered and inferior territory - 1., it doesn&#039;t have a super-star school district, and 2., it has recently had many gang shootings and might be attracting more gang residents.

It&#039;s really a shame though - it has a charming downtown and a wonderful Friday night street fair.  Hopefully the city and its residents will be able to weather the gang storm and turn the tide around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the previous threads, I&#8217;m presuming there are at least two factors that contribute to Monrovia&#8217;s being considered and inferior territory &#8211; 1., it doesn&#8217;t have a super-star school district, and 2., it has recently had many gang shootings and might be attracting more gang residents.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a shame though &#8211; it has a charming downtown and a wonderful Friday night street fair.  Hopefully the city and its residents will be able to weather the gang storm and turn the tide around.</p>
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