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Flip ‘n Flop

725 Tiffany Terrace

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Asking Price $998,000 ::: Sq-ft 2,777
Purchased Price $1,038,000 ::: Lot Size 8,625
Purchased Date 06/05/2007 ::: Beds 4
Days on Redfin 101 ::: Baths 3
$/Sq-ft $359 ::: Year Built 1985
20% Downpayment $199,600 ::: Area Near Monrovia
Income Required $249,500/yr ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $5,046/month ::: MLS# A07156761

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

Here we have another flip gone wrong. It was very tempting for speculators to take part in the bubble when housing prices were ballooning at the alarming rate of yesteryears. This flipper was late to the game and have since lost a chunk of their downpayment and counting. How much will you think they’ll lose when it’s all said and done?

Sales History
Oct 18, 1996 $470,000
June 5, 2007 $1,038,000

  • 1st Mortgage $778,500
  • 2nd Mortgage $150,000
  • Downpayment $109,500

Recent Listing History
Oct 28, 2007 $1,138,000
Nov 14, 2007 $1,080,000
Dec 18, 2007 $998,000

This flipper ignored signs of the struggling market and bought this flip with just over a hundred grand downpayment last summer. Delusional with promises of never ending double-digit growth, they put this house on the market with new flooring after just 4 months with a $100,000 premium. Just 2 weeks after that, news of the troubled market must have finally scared them and the asking price dropped by $58,000 in hopes of breaking even after fees. By December, it’s still on the market so they proceed to reduce it by another $82,000 to push for a sale.

It’s been 6 weeks since the last price reduction and there’s no end in sight. This is now listed as a short sale subject to final lender approval. My crystal ball says there’s another price reduction coming up soon if they really want to move this property. In this case, the specuvestor gets burned because they put down money and the bank will also lose because the property is no longer worth what they paid just a few months ago.

If you made almost a quarter of million dollars a year, would you plunk down $200k on a $1million dollar property off 8th street near Monrovia? If you had to pay over $5,000 per month in mortgage payments (excluding property taxes, insurance, maintenance etc), is this the kind of house you picture yourself living in? Yeah, I didn’t think so either.

The Future of Real Estate Agents

Do you take pride in your work? Dan & Joy Blanding of REMAX Realty obviously don’t because their downed RE sign has been in front of this house for at least 4+ months. It was removed temporarily and then resurfaced in the exact same position about a week later.

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Do you make people angry? Do you have unsatisfied customers? Fazian Bakali (also of REMAX) apparently pissed off someone enough to warrant vandalism of his RE sign. This piece of junk has been in front of 622 Longden Avenue for months.

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Real estate agents are people who make a living off 3% commission by representing a buyer or seller. In exchange for their paycheck, agents do market research, show homes to clients and drafts offers. There isn’t much skill involved in being an agent and that’s probably why everyone and their brother has a real estate license these days.

This profession has been around for a long time mainly because of access to information. Before the internet, it was fairly cumbersome and difficult for the general public to find listings if you did not belong to a group such as the NAR or CAR because they essentially owned the listings database. That remained true until recent years when the internet granted public access to many listings.

When I sit down to write a post, I almost always start by looking at Redfin, Zillow, ZipRealty or any of the free listing websites. They provide me access to current listings, asking price, square footage, number of bed/bathrooms, colored photos, previous sales history and a host of other valuable information. With that, any buyer can scout and screen homes as well as do market research on comparable sales in the desired neighborhood. And now with companies like Redfin and Help-U-Sell, you can even use their agents to attend open houses and draft offers for a mere 1% fee.

Will Redfin and ZipRealty do to RE agents what Expedia and Travelocity did to travel agents? I don’t think the profession will get wiped out because there is some value in qualified, respectable agents. Let’s face it, buying or selling a home is a very emotional and stressful time and it’s nice to have a representative during negotiations. In my opinion, there is a need for good real estate agents, but they should work for a flat fee instead of a percentage commission.
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A 3% commission on a $600k home is $18,000. Looking up a few homes and drafting an offer doesn’t sound like $18,000 worth of work to me. Also, it doesn’t require anymore work to find and buy a $300k home than it does a $600k home – so why should I pay $18,000 for the realtor to do the same work as he/she would have done for $9,000 on a $300k house? That doesn’t make a bit of sense.

If the realtors work for a flat fee, they would have more incentive to actually work in the buyer’s interest instead of always trying to push a sale in order to get paid. The current system is dysfunctional because there is a direct conflict of interest. The higher the sales price, the more the agent get paid so how can they possibly work in the buyer’s best interest? However, if the agent gets paid a flat fee based on customer satisfaction, there would be no conflict of interest. A good, valuable agent will have repeat customers and benefit from customer referrals while a bad realtor will simply get screen out of the industry altogether.

Real estate agents are not certified financial advisors, analysts or economist and do not have the qualifications to give financial advice any more than I do. Customers need to understand that just because they’re real estate agents doesn’t mean they know what they’re talking about. Most of them are under-qualified people looking to make a quick buck.

I don’t like to make generalizations, but you must question the validity and accuracy of their advice when their income directly depends on you making a transaction. You must question their motives. I wouldn’t take anything a realtor says for more than just a grain of salt. Besides, when was the last time you heard a realtor say it wasn’t a good time to buy a home?

Not So Peachy Anymore

***Update*** This listing was modified today to include a slightly lower asking price of $679,000. You think the realtor/seller saw our profile and decided they need to do something to move this property? The direction is correct; the magnitude is not sufficient.

517 Peachtree Lane

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Asking Price $699,900 ::: Sq-ft 1,492
Purchased Price $825,000 ::: Lot Size 8,900
Purchased Date 08/29/2006 ::: Beds 3
Days on Redfin 139 ::: Baths 2
$/Sq-ft $469 ::: Year Built 1965
20% Downpayment $139,980 ::: Area Near Monrovia
Income Required $174,975/yr ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $3,539/month ::: MLS# 22099204

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

This is a case of irrational exuberance and greed.
Let’s take a look at the sales history.

Previous Sale
June 02, 1989 $360,000

Purchased on August 19, 2004 $750,000
Down payment – $0
1st Loan – $600,000
2nd Loan – $150,000

Refinance on August 29, 2006 $825,000
Withdrew $75,000 in cash

These folks bought on 100% financing in 2004 for $750k. It was most likely an option loan that reseted 2 years later, at which time they decided to refinance the property again at the re-appraised value of $825k. In the meantime, they pulled out $75,000 from the ATM on the side of the house and probably bought a new luxury car and a big screen tv. Fast forward to 14 months later, it’s October 2007 and they realized the market was going to hell and they could not afford the payments anymore so they put it on the market.

Initial Listing
October 29, 2007 $729,900

Reduced Price
January 11, 2008 $699,900

I didn’t see two separate loans for the refinance so the owner squatter was somehow able to find a lender to take on the entire $825,000. Even in the heydays of nilly willy no-doc, non-existent underwriting bubble mania, I can’t see a bank stupid enough to make a loan for the entire amount. Perhaps greed got the best of everyone involved who was expecting further unjustified growth of the bubble. Since this was purchased on 100%, it would be considered a short sale and subject to bank approval. If the sellers get their asking price, the bank stands to lose $125,100 or 15%. Even with a price reduction, the listing has been on the market for 139 days.

In the meantime, these “owners” came out winners because they cashed out on $75,000 and walked away with nothing more than a dinged credit score. Assuming the lender is still float, how many more of these bad loans do you think they can absorb before they go under?

Things aren’t looking so peachy anymore.

Inventory and Market Report – 2/2/08

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Current Market Listings as of February 2nd, 2008
Properties for Sale: 256
Median Listing Price: $749,000

December 2007 Sales Report
Properties Sold: 29
Median Price: $790,000

Foreclosure Updates as of February 2nd, 2008
Properties in Foreclosure: 8
Properties in Pre-Foreclosure: 64

Although many local Realtors continue to claim that Arcadia’s housing market is still strong due to high demand, check out this Redfin link. Based on a rough estimate, about a quarter of the homes have been listed for 90+ days and we have just under 6 months worth of standing inventory. Although I expect these sales numbers to increase as we head towards Spring, I doubt 2008 will see the frenzy buying volume of ’05 and ’06.

Property and foreclosure numbers obtained from ZipRealty and Foreclosure.com. Monthly sales numbers obtained from DataQuick News.

Who is SavedByGrace?

Since I am the primary author for this blog, I owe it to my readers to disclose (at least in part) my background. First and foremost, privacy is paramount. I will share the following facts about me, but fully intend to remain anonymous mainly for self-preservation and safety concerns.

I have lived in Arcadia and its surrounding cities since 1990 and know the area like the back of my hand. Currently a renter in one of the neighboring cities, I hope to buy in Arcadia when the price and time is right. I carry no credit card debt, save over 50% of my net income every month, have one small consolidated student loan at a low interest rate and a 800+ FICO score. I am female and taken.

As a young, mechanical engineer, I currently work for a Fortune 500 company as a product development engineer in the medical device industry. While my line of work has nothing to do with the financial and/or housing markets, I am intrigued by its trends and movements enough to follow its past, present and future events. Over the past few years I’ve grown increasingly frustrated with the socal housing craze. I’ve chosen to rent, save and invest my savings instead of take part in the bubble because prices were significantly over-valued. I’d be damned if I were to pay over $1million for a 1300 sqft fixer-upper near Monrovia.

Despite my bearish views, I am looking to buy in the future. For the most part, I will be a rent-saver buyer when the time is right, but I will also be looking for killer deals. With the way things are going, I am expecting at least several more years of decline.

Evidently, this is going to be a housing bear’s blog for the foreseeable future, but as with all cycles, that will change as the market turns. My goal is to get information out to as many readers as possible about the state of the housing market so that people can make their own informed choices about buying, selling and/or renting. I have no incentive to promote or condemn any particular view or property as I am completely outside of the RE industry. It hurts me to see people’s lives left in ruins from bad financial decisions and it is my intention to save as many as possible.

SavedByGrace – a roaring housing mama bear.

A Load of Bull

There are facts and there are myths.
There are truths and there are lies.
There are bears and there are bulls.

There are some lies that select members of the financial and real estate industry would love for you to accept as fact. Real estate agents, brokers, lenders, appraisers, contractors, bankers and anyone else who profits from a transaction has a motive to spew lies to the public for their own personal gain. Whether or not they take action to spread those lies is what distinguishes those with ethics from those without.

What’s obvious to fiscally responsible, clear-headed people may not be as apparent to the millions and millions of sheeple who blindly accept the lies told by the National Association of Realtors. The NAR is certainly not the only party with incentives to lie, but they are by far the biggest in number since everyone and their brother seems to have a real estate license these days. I will proceed to pick apart 10 popular RE myths.

Myth # 1 – Real Estate Always Go Up!

While the price of a property may go up over time, its value does not. The price increase correlates with the increase in income and inflation over time. A $85,000 house in 1974 could be worth over $300,000 now, but people also have a higher income than they did 33 years ago. If you take into account maintenance costs and the wear and tear of the property, its value has actually decreased over time because it’s a much older house.

Myth # 2 – What About the Tax Advantage?

You wouldn’t buy an item simply because it’s on sale (well, some people do). Buying a house just for the tax advantage is like buying a Gucci handbag because it’s 30% off. It’s 30% off of what price though? The tax break for the mortgage interest paid is on taxable income. The borrower must have interest expenses greater than the standard tax deduction before he/she can benefit from the tax break. The tax break is nice, but barely offsets the extra costs of homeownership like insurance, maintenance and property taxes.

Myth # 3 – There Isn’t Any More Land

This statement in and of itself is actually true – we’ve explored all corners of the world. However, it’s misleading to use this as an argument to justify home purchases. People live in housing which lies on land. Housing can be a rented apartment, a townhome, a condo, a single family home or a mansion. Just because everyone wants to live in a McMansion doesn’t mean they should or could do that. Last I checked the United States has a lot more land than Hong Kong, Japan or most European cities. No one is going to become homeless due to the lack of land. That’s just absurd.

Myth # 4 – If You Don’t Buy Now, You’ll Be Priced Out Forever!

You have got to be kidding me. Isn’t this what they said during the last bubble, and the bubble before that and the bubble before that bubble? The double-digit growth outside of market fundamentals is simply unsustainable. Just like the previous two US housing bubbles, we’re in for years – not months – of price and volume decline. We’ve already seen volume drop off a cliff and guess what, price is right behind it.

Myth # 5 – You’re Wasting Money When You Rent

It makes sense to buy only when it costs about the same or less than it does to rent a similar place. During the past few years, it costs thousands more per month to “own” than to rent. The money saved from renting is better off invested in a higher yield market. Real estate agents tell you that by renting, you don’t get to build any equity. While that may be true, renters can make a risk-free return on their money with CDs and other savings accounts. Homeowners on the other hand wake up in the middle of the night worrying what the 15% price reduction on their neighbor’s house will do to their so called equity.

Myth # 6 – Real Estate Is a Great Investment

Contrary to popular belief, real estate is a poor investment. Real estate only averages 3%-4% annual return excluding inflation. Factoring in inflation, there’s almost no gain (+0.7% per Shiller study) in home ownership over the long run other than the shelter and warm and fuzzy feelings it provides. Things change when there’s a bubble, but bubbles are by definition unstable. CDs are running at 3.65%, the stock market at 8% over the long haul and 10%+ for slightly riskier index funds. On top of that, cash, stocks and funds are highly liquid. Real estate is the exact opposite – if you can’t find a buyer, you are stuck holding the bag.

Myth # 7 – Everyone Wants To Live In California

Ah yes, the omnipresent sunshine tax of California. Sure the weather is nice, but standard of living is horrendously high. Compared to other states, you don’t get much for your money when it comes to housing. Maybe that’s why our great golden state has experienced a net outflow of people over the recent years. There are more young and middle aged families moving out of California than moving in – citing affordability as the main reason. Besides, if California is so special, then prices should never drop right? It dropped for 7 consecutive years in the early 90s before prices hit bottom.

Myth # 8 – Many Rich Asians Can/Will Buy with Cash in Arcadia

Although Arcadia has a high population of Asians, that doesn’t mean they’re all wealthy. Even if they are, they surely didn’t get wealthy by being dumb. As crazy as this sounds, they know something about money too! Why would they buy when they can rent for much cheaper? Even if they have enough dough to buy in cash, why wouldn’t they just put down enough to get a good interest rate and borrow the balance while investing the difference in a higher yield, low risk market? Just load up Redfin and take a look at the map. There are many, many homes for sale in 91006/91007. Asians are notorious for their bargaining skills and I’d imagine they’ll use those skills when purchasing a home.

Myth # 9 – Rent Will Increase Over Time

Yes, but again, rent is directly correlated to income and demand. Rents can’t skyrocket just because the landlord feels like making an extra buck if there’s no market for it. The renters can only afford to pay so much based on their disposable income. If income in the area does not increase dramatically, rent cannot and will not move much. Moreover, if demand is a reason then it actually builds the case not to buy because if so many people are buying homes, then demand for rentals is small because so many people are home owners.

Myth # 10 – Many People are on the Sidelines Waiting to Buy

With the record high rate of home ownership posted by the Bush administration, it’s clear many people bought during the boom. These people are no longer potential buyers so the buyer pool has shrunk. All the debtors who have or will default are also out of the buyer pool for the next 7 years due to bad credit. There are only so many people left on the sidelines. On top of that, these sideline buyers will have to go through much stricter lending standards since the credit market is much more risk adversed now – as they should be. That means they’ll need to have 20% downpayment, good credit, assets, relatively low DTI ratios and documented income. There aren’t too many people with those qualifications on the sidelines.

I’m not saying never buy a house. There are good reasons to buy a house, but none of the above qualify as a good reason. Instead, they’re all lies told by the industry insiders to boost their earnings.

So…

There are facts and there are myths.
There are bears and there are bulls.
Can you see why they call it bullsh*t?

Golden McNugget

6709 N Golden West Ave.

2/14/08 Update on listing price reduction

3/25/08 Sold for $970,000 (22% off peak)
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McMansion alert! McMansion alert! McMansion alert!

Here’s another McMansion up for sale. I can’t imagine why anyone would like the look of a house that’s way overbuilt on its lot. The dominating three car garage at the front of the house is so 1980s. According to one of our readers, McMansions are “gaudy” and I agree. The sales history of this property tells yet another story of gambling on a McMansion. Perhaps these folks should have went to the Golden Nugget in Vegas instead of Golden West in Arcadia; they’ll have better odds with their money playing at the tables.

Asking Price $1,225,000 ::: Sq-ft 3477
Purchased Price $1,250,000 ::: Lot Size 6120
Purchased Date 10/13/2006 ::: Beds 5
Days on Redfin 90 ::: Baths 4
$/Sq-ft $352 ::: Year Built 2001
20% Downpayment $245,000 ::: Area Baldwin
Annual Income Required $306,250 ::: Type SFR
Est. Payment* $6,194/month ::: MLS# 12101558

*Estimated monthly payment assume 20% down, 30-yr fixed @ 6.50%

This stretch of Golden West Avenue used to be quiet, but ever since the 99 Ranch Market plaza popped up in the 90s, traffic has increased substantially. This is within walking distance to the aforementioned strip mall in addition to the Pavilions town center next to it. I often see supermarket shopping carts wander down towards the location around this house making the neighborhood look tacky. In addition, it borders the neighboring town of Temple City so it’s not prime Arcadia real estate by any means.

Date Price Appreciation
10/13/2006 $1,250,000 2.2%/yr
09/07/2005 $1,220,000 23.4%/yr
08/31/2004 $985,000 14.9%
10/30/2001 $665,000 311.8%/yr
02/09/2001 $240,000 76.4%/yr
08/29/2000 $186,000

As IR would say over at Irvinehousingblog, this is a “rollback” to 2005 prices. From the looks of it, the buyer in 2001 bought the property for $240k, plowed it down, built this monstrosity they call a house and sold it 8 months later for $665k. From there, the bubble takes off and wild speculation begins with transactions in 2004 for $985k to upwards of over a million dollars by bubble-mania-euphoria-year 2005. The current seller bought 15 months ago for $1.25MM on pure speculation, but won’t get burned even if he doesn’t get the asking price. Why? Because it was bought with 100% financing.

Loan 1: $1,000,000
Loan 2: $250,000
Downpayment: $0

With zero downpayment, the flipper walks away with nothing but a dinged credit score. In this case, the 2nd mortgage lender will lose $25k if they get their asking price. It’s not pretty either way, but the lenders were stupid to do 100% financing and this should teach them not to do that again.

This property has been on the market for 3 months and it’s likely it will remain unsold without a significant price reduction. If I were to spend around $1.2MM, there are much better choices in more desirable parts of Arcadia such as this in Peacock Village, this and this up in the Highlands.